Penny and Sheldon

Bazinga! Sheldon Speaks by Jenna Busch

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The Big Bang Theory’s Jim Parsons tells us what’s in store for our favorite TV geek.

US, January 29, 2010 – If you had any doubt that geek culture has taken over, check out the numbers for The Big Bang Theory. The writing celebrates our obsession with The Green Lantern, reminds us that we are not the only ones who can say hello in Klingon and keeps us laughing at ourselves. Even the Emmys have taken notice.

I just spoke with Emmy Award nominated actor Jim Parsons, who plays socially awkward — but eminently loveable — theoretical physicist Sheldon Cooper. Parsons tells us his theory on why the show is such a hit, when and if love will come to Sheldon and working with co-star Kaley Cuoco. “She’s a wonderful verbal dancing partner,” he says, though he tells us he is far better at bussing tables. He also gives us a sneak peek at this week’s episode. Hint: It involves a ball pit at Chuck E. Cheese.

I love the show and I watch every week. And I keep thinking about all the people who said the sitcom was dead. You guys seem to have completely revived it. What do you think it is about the show that turned an entire show style on its ear?

Well for one thing, I don’t think there is any reinventing of a wheel going on here. You know what I mean? I don’t think anybody’s trying to do anything around here that is in any way changing the old school of thought with the traditional multi-camera sitcom. And that may be one of the biggest things we have going in our favor. We’re trying to simply execute as well as possible, a format that’s been around. That’s been related to live theater.

My thing, and I’ve always said this, and I’m not trying to defer attention or anything like that, is the writing…I’ve heard it said that it’s a writer’s medium, and I completely believe that…and in our case specifically, we only have what they bring. [Laughs] We can only play with what they’ve written, as it were. And we’re in a very fortunate circumstance where what they’re writing is sincerely funny, you know? And maybe ‘sincere’ is sort of the key word there. There is a great sincerity in what we’re doing here…in deference to the format itself. We’re trying to do nothing that different than anything that’s been done before. But we’re trying to do it as best we can.

And then to these characters…We’re trying to be as sincere with them and their situations as we can. Yes, sometimes you’ll have a laugh at their expense, but more often than not, you only buy yourself that opportunity because, more often than not, we’re celebrating these characters. The writers and the actors all have a sincere affection for these characters. Because they’re so fun to play. They have so many wonderful and fun qualities about them.

You mentioned celebrating the characters. You guys have been so embraced by geek culture. I think it’s not just the terms that you use, etc. I think it’s that you guys have such a great affection for your characters.

Absolutely. I think that’s completely true.

You must get asked constantly about how geeky you are. I’d read about your Star Wars figures and how you want an invitation to Hogwarts…

Right.

Do you guys ever feel pressure…I mean, the geeks have sort of made you their standard bearers.

I don’t and it may be blissful ignorance on my part. Or it’s just not affecting me. But I really don’t. What’s funny is, some of their more geekish, nebbish, fanboy qualities, if you will, which I can see on the surface what a big part of the picture we’re painting, they are. And so much of the humor has come from that, and so much of who they are in a day to day way. But I have to say, in the playing of it and in the feeling behind it, it seems so secondary. I don’t know. I feel like, in some ways, these people would be who they are, almost entirely, even if they didn’t have any of those qualities. If they didn’t read comic books. If they weren’t Star Trek and Battlestar fans, or whatever. It’s a happy side bar. It’s extra colors that are laid on top of these really, really smart guys. And I guess that’s it. At the end of the day, when it comes back to square one, the heart of the story is that we’re dealing with four geniuses. To varying degrees. I think Sheldon is probably the smartest. [Laughs]

I was thinking about some of your more complex lines, and I had read that the writing really helps you, but that you do sit down with notecards. I’d also read that you play piano. I’m wondering if being a musician helps you memorize. You really do have a rhythm to your speech.

I feel like it must. I do think of the scenes and this dialogue very specifically in a musical way. And it’s much more self conscious, I have to say. I am able to consciously realize that I’m doing it. The way that they’re writing this, and it’s what I felt from day one with this…it wasn’t the story that grabbed me, though it was lovely. And it wasn’t even the characters themselves as far as who made them what they are. When I first saw the audition sides for this show, I really wanted to leap at the opportunity to get to execute this dialogue. And it was all about the rhythms they put in there. And one of the things the writers are so good at is utilizing, not just scientific terms, but especially in the case of Sheldon, just so many damn words in general, but putting them in a format that has a song to it.

I think there is a musicality to any conversation in general. Some a bit more melodic than others, depending who you’re talking to. [Laughs] It’s most especially accentuated here. It’s definitely highlighted, maybe in any comedy. But most certainly in this one, I think. And it’s one of the great joys. And it’s one of the ways in which, as an actor, in this show at least, I know when something is not going right. Nine times out of ten I’m right about it. Because suddenly you can’t access the rhythm. And either they’re about to rewrite something that’s going to make it fall into place…or you’ve got more days of rehearsal and suddenly you’re going to feel it…I frequently say, ‘That scene sings like a song.’

You know, Chuck (Lorre) was a musician who wrote songs and at least one Top 40 hit for Blondie, I believe. I think any comedy writer has a certain rhythm and I think that Chuck, specifically, has a very…[laughs]…he knows how to make the twenty-two minutes of television play by in the right way. I think it’s the reason that his shows repeat so well in audience numbers. Because I feel like the stories are good and the things you discover the first time you watch the stories are lovely. But perhaps its best quality is that the episode itself goes by like a song. Even if you know what’s going to happen because you’ve seen it once or twice before, it’s still so much fun to watch. And I think that has to do with the rhythm of it. It’s like a favorite song. You know the song, you know where it’s going, but it’s still enjoyable because you like hearing certain notes hit. You like hearing certain rhythms hit.

I agree. This is a show I would want on DVD, because it really is something I’d watch over and over again.

Thank you, first. And secondly, I agree with you. As much as I’m able to say that without sounding like a complete snot. [Laughs] It just turns into a really good time. And that’s not to take away any stories or depth that’s actually there. It’s all there and it’s all good. But at the end of the day, what makes it repeatable…it’s fun.

One of the things fans have reacted to the most are the scenes between you and Penny (Kaley Cuoco). What is it about your chemistry?

Well, I think what it was bred of, coming into the first season, and especially hitting its stride in the second season is that…they are the North and South poles of…all five regular characters on this show. I don’t know which is which. [Laughs] They’re just polar opposites. She’s so earth bound. She is our everyman…and Sheldon is the most heady of the characters. The most, I don’t want to say without his feet on the ground, but in the truest sense of the word, his life, his existence is absorbed in his head. I think that is the biggest ingredient of it. No matter what you do at that point with your characters, it’s going to be a good time, because they’re polar opposites.

But then I have to say, I had never worked with Kaley before I did this show, and we started doing these scenes together, and for whatever reason, I just…it’s such a satisfying time working with her. It is, aah. I can’t put my finger on it, always. But me, as Jim, I have such a good time working with her as Kaley, the actress. And speaking to her through these characters’ voices and having her speak back is just…to bring it back to the music thing again, it’s a wonderful dance. [Laughs] She’s a wonderful verbal dancing partner.

Another thing people have really responded to are the scenes with Sheldon’s mom (Laurie Metcalf). Will we see any more of that this season?

I certainly hope so. [Laughs] You have to take the good with the bad, I guess is what it is. The reason I think the scenes are so damn good is because Laurie is such a gifted actress. The problem you have, working with a gifted actress is that she’s always working. So both her and Christine Baranski…it’s hard to find available times for them! [Laughs] Because they’re so good, everyone wants to use them in some way. So I really feel like a combination of whether a storyline occurs to the writers and is she available for it…she certainly knows her way around acting in general and certainly she has done plenty of the half hour work in TV as well. She just couldn’t be an easier fit when she comes over here. She’s just a good person, you know?

You know everyone wants to know if you think Sheldon will ever find love.

Yeah…I want to guess yes, but I honestly don’t hold out a lot of hope. The reason is very specific. I’ve been part of panel discussions with Chuck Lorre. With Bill Prady. And they have professed that…if these characters change at all, it’s going to be very slow. At the rate of watching paint dry. And…I’ve heard Chuck say this a few times, he has a real aversion to…I think he views Sheldon finding love or the desire for Sheldon to find love as a bit of an attempt to normalize Sheldon. And see the more normal side of Sheldon and oh, he is like us. [Laughs] He’s very interested in continuing to celebrate how different Sheldon is than the general populace. And he really likes exploring this version of Sheldon, where Sheldon has essentially kind of opted out of the romance scene. He’s not taking time for it. In fact, he’s kind of deemed it something that for him, at this point, is sort of a waste of time. There is so much more for him to do, he sees, specifically in science in this case, but whatever.

I hear what he’s saying and I actually love what he’s saying. And I love making those odd choices, those smallest percentile of the populace choices for Sheldon. But I don’t think everybody necessarily wants to see Sheldon normalized. I think that they’ve done such a wonderful job of creating a character that people have a fondness for. And I think wanting to see Sheldon find love is the same thing as wanting to see Sheldon taken care of in some way. Someone to help him along through things that he obviously stubs his toe through, socially…but that brings me back to why I don’t think it will happen. It’s half the fun of playing this character…all the situations where he is on his own and he is clueless. It’s such a dichotomy. He’s a genius and then to get to go through those circumstances where he is clueless…using his big brain for every possibility and just failing, failing. [Laughs] Failure has never been so fun.

I also think that those moments where Sheldon does something sweet for Penny…I think they have more impact if you don’t have him doing that for a girlfriend all the time.

Yeah. I would agree with you. It does add a lot of weight to it. They’ve done such a good job of executing, and I feel, letting play this Penny and Leonard (Johnny Galecki) relationship…they did go against the traditional format in this way. We’re not hanging on ‘will they, won’t they.’ No. They’re doing it. Let’s see what happens. And as far as that relates to giving Sheldon any romantic interest, I think it opens…for the reasons we just said, and others…a much bigger can of worms. And you have to be prepared, I think, as writers and a cast if you’re going to dive into that. You can’t short change yourselves or anybody else. You can’t go in and go, ‘Ooh, this isn’t working,’ and hit reverse as fast as you can with the storyline. I think there is a lot more ground to cover that doesn’t require us to jump in there just yet.

But what the hell do I know? I’ll be honest with you. I never know what story they’re going to deliver. I will not know next week’s story…we’re going to go on hiatus after tonight. We will come in for a table read on Wednesday morning, and it will be Tuesday night at nine o’clock at night before I even get sight of the next script. [Laughs] They won’t tell me a thing. Unless they need to ask me something for my safety, like, ‘Are you able to ride a unicycle?’ Which they have asked. And I said, ‘No, but I’m willing to learn.’ It never came up again. That was over a year ago. I’m grateful. [Laughs] I’ve heard it’s dangerous.

Yeah! I would think so! [Laughs]

How could it not be?

And I hear you’re diving through balls in Chuck E. Cheese in the next episode.

Yes, and might I say, it was one of the finest ideas the writers have had. Such a simple thing. But it goes back to what I said about the science. Wow! We can end up there. I won’t tell you how we end up there exactly. But it’s through science that we end up at Chuck E. Cheese in a bunch of balls. [Laughs] I had so much fun doing that scene. It wasn’t easy! I was really surprised at the lung power it took to fight your way through a ball pit like that. It felt very much like swimming but there was a lot more, it felt like to me, a lot more force to get through to do that. It was very fun. Very colorful.

I hear you also bus tables at The Cheesecake Factory?

Yes. And may I say that Jim as an actor is better at doing that than Kaley as an actress?

Really?

Yes! I had those plates on my arms and I said it out loud one day. I didn’t even think about it. ‘Better than Kaley.’ [Laughs] And you know…it took me longer in life to hit success than Kaley, so perhaps I had more opportunities to perfect dishes on arms and stuff like that. I don’t know.

Beauty and the geeks by Paige Albiniak

NY post

As initially conceived, there was no Penny, the lovable girl-next-door on CBS’ top-rated comedy, ‘The Big Bang Theory.’ There was just a super-sarcastic neighbor named Katie who was mercilessly mean to her super-geek neighbors, Leonard and Sheldon.

But test audiences despised that character, and the show’s producers went back to the drawing board.

After the rewrite, producers brought back in Kaley Cuoco to read for the role of Penny. Cuoco, who, at the time, was best-known for her role as the eldest daughter on ABC’s ’8 Simple Rules,’ had auditioned to play Katie, but that part wasn’t right for her, she says.

“The second-time around, the producers and the network were so on it with me. They told me that Penny had to be wonderful, loving and sweet and the audience had to adore her,” says Cuoco, 24.

Cuoco nailed it, getting through the audition process in two days, and today Penny is the glue that holds “The Big Bang Theory” together.

“Penny has always been the audience’s point of view and the ambassador into the world of our guys,” says Bill Prady, one the series’ executive producers.

Penny, an aspiring actress who’s waitressing at The Cheesecake Factory, lives next door to two brilliant but socially inept physicists, Leonard (Johnny Galecki) and Sheldon (Jim Parsons). While most women would ignore guys like this, Penny is “completely wonderful to them from day one,” says Cuoco.

In fact, one episode finds Penny applying menthol rub to a sick Sheldon’s chest while he begs her to sing “Soft Kitty” to him as his mother once did. She rolls her eyes several times, but she does it.

“Penny handles Sheldon like no one else,” says Cuoco. “She’s wonderful and sweet, but she also has a backbone. She says what’s on her mind.”

This season, Penny and Leonard — the less geeky of the two roommates — became a couple. While the pairing seems unlikely, Cuoco says the fans seem to like it.

“I love the Penny-Leonard hook-up. And I love that they didn’t wait eight seasons to get them together,” she says. “But I have a feeling it won’t last. If I were writing the show, I would say that it wouldn’t last long.”

Conversely, ‘Bang’ fans want Penny and the socially-oblivious, germ-phobic Sheldon to get together. “It’s a very strange idea,” says Cuoco.

Asked if a woman exists out there for Sheldon, Cuoco says, “No. Unless it’s like a robot that Sheldon builds and can control.”

Over the course of her three-season run on ‘Big Bang,’ Cuoco has become a favorite of geeks who wish someone just like her would move in next door.

“They are a little obsessed with Penny, really,” she says. “I have definitely not known any men like this in my own life — these guys are on another dimension. They are full-on brilliant, genius boys.”

The California native has been acting and modeling since she was six years old. Her big break came with ’8 Simple Rules,’ when she had just turned 16. A modest hit on ABC in 2002, the show struggled after star John Ritter died of an aortic dissection just two episodes into its second season.

The show went on for two more seasons without him. “Doing that show for one season with John Ritter is an experience I’ll never forget,” Cuoco says.

After ’8 Simple Rules,’ Cuoco played Billie in the eighth season of ‘Charmed,’ a role she enjoyed, but working on a one-hour drama reminded her why she prefers sitcoms.

“Dramas require 18-hour days where you want to kill yourself,” says Cuoco, who is single. “You can have a life while you work on a sitcom, and I’m selfish. I love my life, and I like to do other things besides work.”

With “Big Bang Theory” attracting nearly 16 million viewers each week, Cuoco can expect a long-run playing the girl next door. Asked why she thinks the show is a hit, she says, “The characters are really lovable, and the writing is brilliant. The guys couldn’t be more innocent, but there’s also a little bit of sass to it.”

The Geek shall inherit the earth by Jenna Schnuer

American way

AT FIRST GLANCE, SHELDON COOPER, PHD — Jim Parsons’s character on CBS’s runaway hit The Big Bang Theory — appears to be your average neighborhood hipster. He’s got the lanky frame, the long-sleeved shirt layered under a cool logoed tee — the whole shebang. But as soon as Sheldon opens his mouth, you realize a hipster he isn’t. In fact, he’s an awkward, geeky überscientist who easily earns a spot among TV’s least socially skilled characters in history.

Parsons, 36, so completely inhabits the character that it’s hard to believe a conversation with him would be easy. Luckily, he’s just that good of an actor. (We should have guessed that — Parsons was nominated this year for his first Emmy for the role.) The real Parsons, a true Southern gentleman who hails from Houston, loves a good chat.

You’ve had roles in movies and TV shows, but Sheldon Cooper is your biggest so far. When you first read the script, what effect did you think The Big Bang Theory would have on your career?

In some ways, I can’t believe where we are with the show, how long we’ve been working on it now. At the same time, it all happens so day-by-day. I did feel special about it when I received the material, because you’re doing so many auditions, and this was the rare one that came in that I was like, I think I would put me on a short list of people who should bring this character to life. You don’t know if [the casting directors] will agree, but luckily for me, they did.

Sheldon’s an interesting guy. Do you like him?

I would say that yes, I am fond of him. It’s not anything necessarily that I’ve done. It’s as much the writing. He’s such a nonmalicious character. He comes by his faux pas so honestly. He’s just so methodical, and he’s so scientific in mind. It just stops him from engaging in social niceties. He doesn’t have time for it, and frankly, it doesn’t occur to him. There’s some version of arrested development in his brain socially, dealing with people. He’s just really busy doing a lot of other things, and nobody ever asked that of him. One wonders how capable he is of actually ever getting there. Perhaps that’s season seven, God willing.

Does your body hurt after you finish playing him? It seems like you have to be kind of contained.

You couldn’t be describing this better. No, I don’t hurt, and honestly, I don’t really consciously think about it. I’ve rarely made many conscious decisions on how he should move or how he should sound. One thing I always say is that I’m amazed at how much the sound of this character, if you will, is simply affected by how many consonants and words are coming out of his mouth.

Has any of the Sheldon containment slipped into your regular life?

I’ve always had a certain way of moving awkwardly. There’s been great fun at the expense of imitating my walk throughout my life at different times. There’s something both that I have control over and have no control over about my physicality. I will either have a very healthy body at a ripe old age, or I’ll be the first person in my peer group to break a hip at 60. I can’t tell where that goes.

This is your second go-round playing a character fluent in Klingon, the first being in Garden State. Are you okay with that?

It is very odd. Well, no it’s not. Who knows why somebody who has never watched Star Trek — who had no idea what the Klingon language would sound like — has been asked twice in his adult life to play somebody who has an intimate relationship with this Klingon language. But, and this is an easy example, why would somebody who’s asked to [agree to] play a murderer? What fits naturally about that? What looks right? Yes, he could kill someone?

What’s your fan base like?

It’s all over the map as far as gender, age range, type of person. I’ve had fan mail from prison. I don’t know what the crime was.

A chat with Jim Parsons by Will Harris

Bullz eye

We’re going to go on record right now and say that Jim Parsons got the shaft at this year’s Emmy Awards. Not that Alec Baldwin isn’t great as Jack Donaghy on ’30 Rock,’ but in the end, he’s just another guy in a suit. As Dr. Sheldon Cooper, however, Parsons has taken a character that could’ve been just another comic book nerd and transformed him into a comedic force to be reckoned with, and he and his co-stars – Johnny Galecki, Kaley Cuoco, Simon Helberg and Kunal Nayyar – have made ‘The Big Bang Theory’ one of the funniest shows on television. Bullz-Eye’s Will Harris chatted with Parsons back in 2008, then crossed paths with him again this summer during the Television Critics Association Awards and floated the idea of doing a phoner once Season Three of ‘The Big Bang Theory’ had kicked off in earnest, which Parsons assured him would be no problem whatsoever. Still, when the time came to set up the interview, Will decided to refresh Parsons’ memory of the evening by sending him a picture from that night. Fortunately, it worked like a charm.

Hi, Will!

Hey, Jim, how’s it going?

Very well. How are you doing? Good to talk to you again — and that was a nice picture you sent over! It would’ve been better without me in it [laughs] but it was still nice.

• Well, it pleases my wife to no end that she’s got a photo of you and her.*

Awwwwwww. Say hello to her.

I certainly will. So it sounds like you’ve been working hard on the set.

Yes, it’s a good time, but it does produce sweat, I’ll say that.

So what episode are you guys working on now?

We are — number-wise, we’re on number 12, and if I understand correctly, we’re going to do 24, so I guess that means we’re literally at the halfway point. Christine Baranski will be in this week’s episode, which is wonderful. Although she isn’t here right now, I think because she’s moonlighting with us. She’s having to finish out her day job, which I guess is ‘The Good Wife’ right now, so we’ll see her a little bit later. But I think she can handle a slightly abbreviated rehearsal schedule. She knows her way around the block. [Laughs]

Well, I’m actually glad that I’m getting to talk to you this week, as opposed to when we were originally supposed to speak, because now Sheldon has officially gotten to second base with Penny.

Oh, my God! You’re absolutely right!

And congratulations on that, by the way.

Oh, thank you, thank you. You know, unwittingly, without actually looking at it, Sheldon grabbed Penny’s boob. You’re right: second base. Wasn’t that a wonderful moment they thought of? I just thought it was absolutely fantastic. I mean, of all the way you can get a man hand’s on a woman’s flesh — that man’s hand on a woman’s flesh — they just never cease to amaze me, the writers, with the way they twist and turn him. [Laughs]

And the look on your face was classic.

[Laughs] With the eyes closed and all?

My wife and I also particularly enjoyed the episode because of the joke about the check engine light in Penny’s car, because ours has been on for about six months now.

You’re kidding me!

I am not.

You know, my car — the power locks have all quit working, so I can manually get in with a key, but only my door. So I can’t open any other door, and I’ve had to take a couple of friends a couple of places, and they’ve all had to crawl over the console. So I’m no better than Penny when it comes to that, though I guess it’s less unsafe, as long as I’m not driving over bridges.

You know, I didn’t want to be the one to have to tell to tell you this, but — you’re kind of a big time TV star. You can probably afford to hire someone to get that fixed.

I know, I probably could. It really is a time issue. And probably an intelligence issue. I’ll bet there’s a way I could get it taken care of. Like, I bet someone would pick it up. I’ll bet that, in this ideal world, I could probably even get a loaner car for that process. But I simply haven’t executed any of that.

Well, I’m sorry that you didn’t pick up the Emmy, but I do understand that you’re up for a People’s Choice Award.

I am! That’s very exciting.

Given that everyone I’ve talked to was excited that I was talking to you, I’m hoping that bodes well for you.

Oh, thank you! Yeah, well, I hope so. I voted myself, and I voted for myself, but I only voted once. I know that you can do it repeated times, but it kind of felt like bad karma to vote for myself more than once. But by the same token, I wasn’t going to vote for Alec Baldwin, so, y’know (trails off)

That’s admirable restraint on your part.

[Laughs] Thank you.

So I always enjoy the episodes where you team up with Penny, and I understand that, in addition to this week’s, there’s another one coming up where you teach her physics, or try to, anyway.

[Sighs] Yes. Oh, my God. What a valiant effort. That being said, I completely agree with you, as far as I have as much fun as humanly possible, I think, on this show when they have a heavy Penny and Sheldon episode. And that one — I think I enjoyed the teaching her science more than the hospital one that just aired, actually, although I enjoyed them both. But it was so fun to get to (pauses) Sheldon’s not a great teacher, as you can imagine. He doesn’t have the patience of Job, and he takes on the airs of being a teacher, but it just doesn’t come naturally, I don’t think, even though the information does. And to couple with that, as you can imagine, she’s just not a good student. She comes unprepared, she can’t stay on track, it flies over her head within the first two sentences. But it was so fun, in an “Educating Rita” kind of way.

I understand Kaley Cuoco refers to those episodes as being full of “Shenny moments.”

Yes, she does. She’s a quack. [Laughs]

I think my favorite episode this season was the one with Wil Wheaton.

Oh! How great was it to have him? That was so fun.

Many of my friends have taken to screaming “Wheaton!” at the top of their lungs, in an attempt to emulate you.

No! [Laughs] He seemed to be completely okay with the fact that his entire name became a mantra of vengeful hate. That didn’t seem to bother him. He was so fun to have on the set, and he was such a good guy, just in general, but what a wonderful foil for Sheldon. And it makes such sense, because as a person and as an actor — he was playing himself, though slightly different, obviously — of course Sheldon’s the angriest at this human who is so _un_hurtful. There’s nothing wrong with Wil Wheaton!

I can only hope that they signed him up for a sequel episode the second the reactions started coming in for that one.

I hope so, too, although they wouldn’t tell me if they did.

Yes, I’ve read that you always feel that you’re the last to know anything on the set.

We are the last to know! The entire cast! I mean, honest to God, if you didn’t have other actor friends telling you, “I went in to audition for somebody on your show,” it’d be a matter of waiting for a script and saying, “Oh, look who’s in this episode!”

So who’s been your favorite guest star to work with? Not to belittle any of them, of course.

Oh, no, I know, I know. I’m not afraid to answer the question as much as it really is hard. I mean, we have so many talented people, and it’s just (hesitates) Immediately, for me, I do — oh, God, they’re all so good, but this is a somewhat easier call: the grouping of three previous sitcom women who knew just the ropes so well, Sara Rue, Christine Baranski and Laurie Metcalf. They just took to it, and obviously they would. But they’re just so funny, too, and they’re just such good actors. They’re just so real, and they listen and they respond. But I guess I’ll have to be biased, and I’m going to go ahead and have to say Laurie, because she played my mother. I would never want — hopefully, Christine and Sara will never read your article.

I will do my best to keep it under wraps.

Yes, please do. Maybe you could set it up so that you have to enter a secret code to hear my answer. [Laughs] But, no, it really is hard, and I only give her that favoritism because she literally is playing my mother, so I guess that wins. I’ve said it before, though: the class of guest star we get on this show at times is so — it’s such a rewarding thing, you know? It just makes life so fun. It’s fun to inject new life into this show, anyway, but when you’re able to get someone who is so talented as an actor in general, it’s not only a coup for the show and the audience members, but for you as an actor, to get to work with them. It’s always a different dance when strong actors come in like that, because they bring their own thing, and you’re, like, “Wooooooo!” There’s nothing more fun than getting to respond to that, especially with a character that you’ve gotten to know more and more and more that you’re playing. You go, “Oh, this changes things.” Sheldon’s feelings for Christine Baranski’s character, I just love! He loves her! He thinks that is the best mother in the world, you know, that untouching, unfeeling, clinical — oh, my God, he is just tickled by her. And that’s so fun, because so few people do I get to respond that way to through him. He’s normally — maybe he’s been in amazement, like with George Smoot and people like that were on, but for the most part, he considers himself pretty much — I don’t want to say above other people, because I don’t think he’s a snooty man in that way, but he doesn’t have time for most people. So to have somebody like that character come on that he feels compels to engage with, that he can’t resist but to engage with, is very fun.

I’m still rooting for Leonard Nimoy to turn up on the show someday.

You and me both! I couldn’t agree more.

Your reaction when Penny gave Sheldon that Nimoy-autographed napkin…

What a wonderful thing they wrote. It was just unbelievable.

I think it’s still one of my favorite moments of all time. In fact, on a Spock-related note, I couldn’t help but notice that the goatee that you were sporting during the season premiere…

(cheerily) There you go.

…looked suspiciously like the one worn by Spock’s counterpart in “Mirror, Mirror.”

Yes, suspicious, indeed! [Laughs] No, you nailed it on the head: that’s exactly what it was.

I know that the other guys had some of their own facial hair working when they came back from the between-season hiatus, but you did not. Are you not a fan of the facial hair?

I’ll be honest: no, I’m not. Not for myself, I should say. It doesn’t bother me at all on other people. But I will say this: if I had a very dark, heavier beard that came in and could get some sort of five-o’clock shadow type thing, I’d actually be pro-facial hair for me, just because it’d be something new and different. But I don’t really get that. I just kind of look dirty. There’s no definitive “oh, look at that nice five-o’clock shadow.” It’s more “oh, he forgot to shave.” It just makes me look lazy. There’s nothing debonair about it. Did you watch the baseball playoffs at all?

Here and there.

Speaking of five-o’clock shadows, Andy Pettitte has the most sculpted five-o’clock shadow. I didn’t even think about it until I was talking to Simon (Helberg) when one of the games was on, but I said, “Andy Pettitte has the most definitive line on his five-o’clock shadow.” He said, “Yeah, I think that’s sculpted.”

Yeah, even baseball players need stylists.

I mean, of course they do, but it’s just so stupid. It’s amazing the level of things that come across my TV that don’t occur to me. Like, I still buy into commercials. I know realistically that they’re actors, but for some reason, as opposed to a movie or a TV show, where I go, “Whatever,” and I can kind of separate myself from them, commercials just suck me in so hard. I’ll be, like, “I’ll bet you’re right: I’ll bet that cereal is wonderful!”

Yeah, but they’re just not as sentimental as they used to be. In the ’70s, you’d be watching a commercial, and you’d be, like, “Aw, look at that: his grandma is so happy that he called her!”

You’re right. I remember they used to have — well, Kodak had some very tear-jerking commercials.

I think I asked you this question before, but it’s been a season since then: what’s your favorite of Sheldon’s quirks?

Hmmm. I don’t remember what I said before — which is good. (long pause) Oh, God, I guess — I like his cleanliness. It just came up again in a recent episode — well, it hasn’t aired yet, but I mention disinfecting the kitchen and bathroom in a very casual way, like, “That’s what I did then,” and just whatever. And it reminded me of that. I really like that, because… — I understand whereof that comes, you know, but I can’t do it. I’m a little too lazy myself. [Laughs] So I really admire his ability to go through on that quirk and actually disinfect the kitchen and disinfect the bathroom. How wonderful. I would love to have a Sheldon around the house to do that!

So when you heard that they were actually going to get Leonard and Penny together, were you skeptical, or did you just leave it the writers’ hands, since they’ve done such good work thus far?

I wasn’t skeptical, and there was a level of — well, of course, I did honestly feel that I could leave it in their hands, because I always like what they do, or I’m always entertained by it and I enjoy getting to play it and be a part of it. But I also actually kind of liked it, because — I guess the easy one to look at is that it’s like a Ross and Rachel. Or, for me, when I was younger, even like a ‘Moonlighting.’ And that’s fantastic to have that kind of riding along with that tension, but — I don’t think that was well suited for us, or even necessarily. And I was kind of excited that they were going to go ahead and say, “Let’s explore this.” And not in a date, and not in two dates, but — I was just discussing this with a friend of mine, because I really don’t know, and I was, like, “I wonder if they’re going to be together for all of Season Three.” I mean, like, will Season Three be kind of, like, “the season where Penny and Leonard were together the whole time”? Or will it go on longer? I don’t know. Or will they be breaking up soon? I think for the first few episodes of the season, every episode that came down, I looked at and wondered, “Is this when they’re going to break up?” And I’m only realizing as I say this to you that I don’t wonder that at all anymore. I’ve become so adjusted to the idea of them together, which brings me back to my point about what made me happy: I really like that they decided to play this kind of true to life. Two friends get together, and you’re, like, “Oh, that’s not going to work,” but then six months into it, one Friday night, you suddenly go, “Oh, my God, I’m completely used to them being together! I’m still not sure that it’s going to last, but I’m not thinking about it anymore.” And never mind the fact that, completely selfishly, it was one more intimate way to get Penny into Sheldon’s life, to irritate him just by her mere existence. “Irritate” may not be the right word, but just to, y’know, push a button and force him to deal with her. That’s one of her things, I think. She’s a force that must be dealt with.

You know, something in this past week’s episode that my wife noted: Sheldon peeked at Penny.

Yeah.

Should we take that as a hint that, possibly somewhere in the far future, Sheldon could have a girlfriend?

I think you can take that as a hint, but I’m afraid that it’s frustratingly open to interpretation. [Laughs] Looking at Sheldon’s sexuality is like trying to read into a Rothko painting. It’s just, like, “Do I see a line?” “No.” “No? Well, I see something.” You know? And I don’t know. Chuck (Lorre) always says — well, not always, but I’ve heard him say more than once, and I didn’t think of it this way, but he says, “What is this desire to force Sheldon into something to normalize him?” And I don’t think everybody’s thinking that way, let me say that first off, but I just thought it was an interesting take on it. As opposed to, “Why don’t we see what happens to this guy who has opted out?” And what I think is interesting about that is that, number one, I don’t think that people are necessarily ravenous to see Sheldon normalized or brought down to a level or something. I think that it’s very sweet, and I agree with people who think it would be. I want Sheldon to feel love, you know? [Laughs] I enjoy it in my life when I feel love, and I’d like him to. And I also think it will one day, fingers crossed, be a wonderful story arc. I would hope that, if that time ever comes, we’ll deal with it in the same way they’ve dealt with the Penny/Leonard thing. I mean, not the same exact relationship, obviously, but in that way of going where it’s not a big special episode or something. Or maybe there are a couple, but it’s more of finding a way getting through this, him finding his way into this. But as far as the thinking, I had the exact same thought you did, and that’s why I say it’s impossible to interpret, because I thought, “How interesting that he bothered to look!” But then I thought, “As a scientist, of course he’s going to look. It’s just one more body to see.”

It seems like a relationship would cause him to be torn between wondering the curiosity of “What would this be like for me?” and treating it like a scientific experiment.

I agree with you. I do. And I don’t — I don’t know if there’s any way around that. If we look at Sheldon as a real person for a second and pretend, I just think that — you know, I’ve always said he would have to be completely frying-pan-over-the-head-walloped to fall in love, and I stick by that, not so much in a comic value way, but — he does seem to have that nature, but, like Chuck says, that’s not what he’s choosing to do right now. He’s choosing to devote himself and his life in other ways, and he finds that he doesn’t have the time for that. So I do think he’d have to be hit by a wave of emotion, if you will, or desire in order to be forced into making that choice. But then you have who he is and his nature to look at things through that scientific lens. So — I don’t know. That’s the other exciting thing about it, because — what a special person it would take to devote themselves to Sheldon, and to accept him for what he was. Not that he’s a leper or something [laughs] but he can be so tiring to deal with, and if you were his intimate other, oh, my God, would you have to listen to more workings of his even deeper inner mind? Good criminey!

I know that you guys and your characters don’t necessarily cross paths that often when it comes to your tastes, but is there anything that you’ve discovered as a result of Sheldon being a fan?

Well, the problem is — okay, well, no, I’m not more into science or anything, and I haven’t really gotten more into comic books or games or anything. But if I have to be sincere about it, though, I think I’ve grown a greater appreciation for letting myself enjoy time alone. Because he enjoys it so much, you know? He not only enjoys it, but I think he prefers it. It’s easier for him to get things done when he’s alone. Other people get in the way. And it’s one of the things that I do kind of admire about him. Some people think he’s somewhat cut off from society, and I guess that’s not always great, but that ability to be content alone like that — I think that’s really nice. He’s really comfortable with himself in many ways, which is admirable.

There’s something I’ve never asked you about, even though it’s a stock question, but, what’s your favorite project that you’ve worked on that didn’t get the love you thought it deserved? Because I’ve never really asked you about anything that you did prior to “Big Bang,” even though I know you obviously did do other things.

That didn’t get the love it deserved? I’ve certainly been in things that I wish had never been seen. I feel like this going to be (hesitates) Hmmm. It’s a funny question, and I’ll say this. Because the first thing I think of — I really thought it would be a play, first and foremost, but I had such a good time with almost every piece of theater that I’ve done that I have no regrets that things didn’t travel farther. They were what they were. So the first thing that I think of is a pilot that I did about a year or two — maybe two years — before I did “Big Bang.” It was for CBS, and it was with Jane Krakowski. It was kind of her vehicle, actually, and I enjoyed doing it so much. I played a supporting character – I was a bartender – and I just thought it went so well. Still, if I went back and looked at that pilot, I would think it was a successful pilot. And I think it actually came very close to getting picked up, from what I understand. We were, like, on the bubble ‘til up to the 12th hour. That, I thought, would’ve been a great series. It was about life in a restaurant, and — I don’t know. But with that being said, the caveat is that, while I think my feelings are honest about it not getting the love it deserved, it’s the living definition of everything happening for a reason. [Laughs] There it is, right there. So that’s why I don’t shed any tears for it: because I wouldn’t be here right now, with any likelihood, had it gotten picked up. And in many ways, this is the most exciting thing that I’ve ever gotten to be a part of. So anything that would’ve gotten in the way of this, I have to look back and say, “Well, I’m glad it didn’t!”

(Writer’s note: If you’re wondering, the pilot was called ‘Taste,’ and it also co-starred Rufus Sewell, late of CBS’s ‘Eleventh Hour,’ Richard Ruccalo of ‘Two Guys, A Girl, and a Pizza Place’ and ‘Rita Rocks,’ and Lola Glaudini of ‘Criminal Minds.’)

How have you been enjoying the talk show circuit? Because I’ve seen you on Craig Ferguson’s show, but I know you did ‘The Tonight Show’ recently.

I just got to do ‘Conan, and it was wonderful. I was scared to death of Conan, more than any of them, and I’m not kidding you. I’m always nervous going on any of them, because you never know what’s going to happen exactly — although they’ve all been nice. It’s not a matter of that. I don’t feel like anybody’s out to get me when I go out there. But you just don’t know what’s going to happen! Like, Letterman’s really intimidating, because — well, he’s Letterman! There’s this stoic, staid thing. But by the same token, you kind of know what to expect from him. And I don’t think this is as true for Conan as it was, because I think the format changed a little, and he’s on the new show now. It’s not the same show, it’s a different one, and I knew him mostly from when he was on later, and I just thought, “I don’t have a clue what to expect from him…and I mean physically! He may get up!” And Ferguson’s wont do that, too, but it’s different. It’s different! And, oh, my God, I was just, like, “What if I get something on me? I might leave there slimed or something!” But he was so nice. They are all, they really are, but I just found it funny about midway through the interview, thinking, “I can’t believe I was worried about this.” He just couldn’t have been better.

And last one: as you said, you guys are always the last to know, but is there anything about the upcoming episodes that you can speak to that we should be looking forward to?

Are you kidding? [Laughs] As far as I know, we’re going to make them. That’s about it. No, really, I don’t know anything. But we’re making a Christmas episode right now. And I thought we were too late. I thought that — well, I don’t know what I thought. I just thought we would’ve done a Christmas one by now. I guess I just wasn’t adding up the time in my head well enough.

All right, Jim, I think I’ve bent your ear long enough…

Oh, I’m so glad we got to talk!

As am I, absolutely. Good talking to you again, and if I don’t see you in January, then I’m sure I’ll see you in July.

Gorgeous. Thanks again. Bye!

Five questions with Jim Parsons

Behind the Shield (e-newsletter)

What’s your favorite thing about playing Sheldon?

In a weird way, (it’s) all the longer passages they give him to say-especially the ones laden with scientific terms. I mean, they are mind-numbing at times, trust me, but there is no satisfaction like the kind you get from not only memorizing these, but from making sense of them-both for yourself and the audience.

When you heard that “The Big Bang Theory” had been picked up for two seasons, how did you celebrate?

I lead a very lame life in terms of celebrations. So, there was no champagne uncorked or anything like that. I remember thinking immediately of all the new scientific terms this would mean I would have to memorize (or, in reference to the above question, “GET to memorize!”).

When you’re not shooting your own TV show, are you a big TV watcher?

I tend to always have the TV on, but this doesn’t mean I am actually watching anything. I am unfortunately remarkably talented at singing commercial jingles and can identify most commercial products within just a few notes. this really can’t come in handy any day…

What do you order from the Commissary on the Studio lot, and what’s your favorite thing from craft services?

The Commissary has the most wonderful peanut butter cookies I’ve ever eaten. As far as our own craft services is concerned, Jeannette is such a wonderful human being-she not only always has something delicious set out, but is constantly asking if she can make one of us something in particular. I love her.

Who is the biggest celebrity you’ve seen on the Warner Bros. lot?

John Stamos. And I say this having laid eyes on George Clooney as well, but I have to tell you that I was more stunned to see Mr. Stamos. No offense, George…you’re still number two in my book!